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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zdj?cia ?lubne ?l?sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zdj?cia ?lubne ?l?sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Zdj?cia ?lubne ?l?sk...&lt;/strong&gt;

Its always nice to read Yours articles....</description>
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<p>Its always nice to read Yours articles&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Geekery</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fry!  http://sarahetc.com/?p=605 - bookmarked by 2 members originally found by donal on 2009-02-21  Mac Web Design &quot; MacTheWeb &quot; CMS Showdown Joomla vs. Drupal  http://mactheweb.com/software-review/joomla-vs-drupal/ - bookmarked by 4 members originally found [...]</description>
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		<title>By: joomla access uncategorized with sef link</title>
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		<dc:creator>joomla access uncategorized with sef link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] site. There are a few modifications such as sef Patch and sef Advanced that make joomla more SEO ...http://mactheweb.com/software-review/joomla-vs-drupal/Is there any money left? &#187; Website TestingJoomla access Groups and Content Authoring I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] site. There are a few modifications such as sef Patch and sef Advanced that make joomla more SEO &#8230;http://mactheweb.com/software-review/joomla-vs-drupal/Is there any money left? &#187; Website TestingJoomla access Groups and Content Authoring I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pages Unbound Is Closing &#187; Novelr - Making People Read</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pages Unbound Is Closing &#187; Novelr - Making People Read</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: integrate open reality with joomla</title>
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		<dc:creator>integrate open reality with joomla</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: user0</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pepper

Don&#039;t believe all you read. I am fluent with HTML and CSS and have no trouble handcoding a static site. However, my recent experience with Drupal has left me looking around for alternatives.

The author is correct when he states it uses the worst jargon around, although I don&#039;t feel quite so flippant about it. The lack of work in this crucial area (do you want to create a page, or story - do you understand that your content is a node, published in a node, which is actually a page, etc etc) seems to reflect their approach generally i.e. it&#039;s very haphazard. I take a dim view of this lack of polish as it&#039;s the bit I can see and they couldn&#039;t be bothered tidying it up. What kind of mess is the bit I can&#039;t see?

To anyone considering it I&#039;d have to say that despite its great promise Drupal is little more than a tinkerers toy. Yes, some nice sites have been made with it, but given the speed with which Ruby on Rails developers are making alpha CMSs I can&#039;t see Drupal lasting the pace. It lacks the crucial sophistication needed to survive in my view. And before anyone goes mad they are at version 5, they&#039;ve had plenty of time to take a good look at much of the mess.

The documentation really sucks. Try finding a solution for adding META tags to your site, it&#039;s just a confused mess of opinions with few solutions. Add into this mix some seriously dodgy &quot;modules&quot; which are little more than people having a go. When you add it together its just not worth the effort.

As for any kind of commercial application? Bear in mind Drupal make no secret of the fact they don&#039;t even try to make new releases backward compatible! Hardly likely to endear them to an IT team.

All in this is CMS developed with a Linux mentality. It&#039;s a confusing mess that has much promise but will almost certainly be outstripped by newer kids on the block. As noted my money&#039;s on Ruby on Rails, as even the early alpha releases seem to take care to try and understand how a designer/developer actually makes a website. It is this element, thinking ahead, that Drupal seems to lack. It&#039;s not really good enough any more to assume site creators will spend the time looking for workarounds to accomplish tasks. And the main reason I use a CMS to avoid the kind of coding until dawn kind of stuff you have to do to jam a new template into Drupals torturous templating system.

Finally, to put this in perspective, Drupal is the kind of thing I would have loved when I was 18. Tinkering around and learning stuff. I just don&#039;t have the time anymore as not enough of it works right out of the box. A brave attempt but already slipping compared to others.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t believe all you read. I am fluent with HTML and CSS and have no trouble handcoding a static site. However, my recent experience with Drupal has left me looking around for alternatives.</p>
<p>The author is correct when he states it uses the worst jargon around, although I don&#8217;t feel quite so flippant about it. The lack of work in this crucial area (do you want to create a page, or story &#8211; do you understand that your content is a node, published in a node, which is actually a page, etc etc) seems to reflect their approach generally i.e. it&#8217;s very haphazard. I take a dim view of this lack of polish as it&#8217;s the bit I can see and they couldn&#8217;t be bothered tidying it up. What kind of mess is the bit I can&#8217;t see?</p>
<p>To anyone considering it I&#8217;d have to say that despite its great promise Drupal is little more than a tinkerers toy. Yes, some nice sites have been made with it, but given the speed with which Ruby on Rails developers are making alpha CMSs I can&#8217;t see Drupal lasting the pace. It lacks the crucial sophistication needed to survive in my view. And before anyone goes mad they are at version 5, they&#8217;ve had plenty of time to take a good look at much of the mess.</p>
<p>The documentation really sucks. Try finding a solution for adding META tags to your site, it&#8217;s just a confused mess of opinions with few solutions. Add into this mix some seriously dodgy &#8220;modules&#8221; which are little more than people having a go. When you add it together its just not worth the effort.</p>
<p>As for any kind of commercial application? Bear in mind Drupal make no secret of the fact they don&#8217;t even try to make new releases backward compatible! Hardly likely to endear them to an IT team.</p>
<p>All in this is CMS developed with a Linux mentality. It&#8217;s a confusing mess that has much promise but will almost certainly be outstripped by newer kids on the block. As noted my money&#8217;s on Ruby on Rails, as even the early alpha releases seem to take care to try and understand how a designer/developer actually makes a website. It is this element, thinking ahead, that Drupal seems to lack. It&#8217;s not really good enough any more to assume site creators will spend the time looking for workarounds to accomplish tasks. And the main reason I use a CMS to avoid the kind of coding until dawn kind of stuff you have to do to jam a new template into Drupals torturous templating system.</p>
<p>Finally, to put this in perspective, Drupal is the kind of thing I would have loved when I was 18. Tinkering around and learning stuff. I just don&#8217;t have the time anymore as not enough of it works right out of the box. A brave attempt but already slipping compared to others.</p>
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